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PeaceLoveNap

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-ST

Freelee

What were those big, evil, white robotic things in "The Empire Strikes Back" that walked along lazering everything in sight? I think they've arrived in PLG! What's next? a visit from Darth Vader?

PeaceLoveNap

No, you're thinking of the ones in Return of the Jedi. I just posted da link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT-ST

I think ATP guy should post a "separated at birth?" comparison.

Martin

PLG Prison Camp! That's the first thought I had when I saw this yesterday. All we wanted was beat cops walking the nabe and now we have a watchtower. Somehow we should feel honored that we got one of the five brand new towers the city bought, right here in our backyard but, I just feel insulted. See this NY Times article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/
nyregion/10towers.htlm

Midwoody

I think the above link doesn't work because of the "htlm" instead of "html"... this "contraption" is pretty intense.... are there people manning it 24/7? I'm out of town and have yet to walk under its eerie, watchful eye. Here is the link to the Times article that Martin found:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/nyregion/10towers.html

Midwoody

Let me try one more time on the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/nyregion/10towers.html

Midwoody

not sure why it keeps getting cut off:
The end of the link should look like this:
04/10/nyregion/10towers.html

Freelee

From the Times article, the pro argument:
“Knowing that someone from the police is up there keeping an eye out tends to encourage those who would do no good to go elsewhere,” said Don Aaron, a spokesman for the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, which has been using one of the towers for a year.

From the same Times article, the con:
Elsewhere in the city, where the towers have been deployed for parades and festivals, and on blocks known as magnets for drug dealing, some residents caution that they may be seen as an intimidating police presence and harm community relations.

Dan

This sad excuse for quality policing also sports a fanciful little wind measuring device next to its spy cams (see photo on that other PLG blog). Is that so the officers can accurately gauge the drift of bullets fired at distant targets? Or perhaps it also provides a 5-day forecast...

Where are all the positive reactions to this thing? I expected to be in the minority of horrified people.

Dan

To answer my question - maybe Ed isn't up yet ;-)

Gary

I watched this police presence being towed into place yesterday and was immediately reminded of Cairo, Egypt. I was a tourist there in the eighties and there were police towers all over the place with officers fielding assault rifles on top. Not a comforting sight for me. I hate this thing standing in our neighborhood it is far worse than the cameras on light poles.

I can't believe that we are the most appropriate area for this, crime-wise. I think that the physical opportunity was presented by the strategicaly located BP station, and the precinct just grabbed it.

noq

Does it shoot laser blasts? 'cause that would be pretty cool.

If not, it just sucks. let's get moving on kicking this crap out of our front lawn. It's offensive.

mapler

I sore (please no corrections on the spelling) this white tower yesterday and thought to myself that crime must be more significant than I imagined.

PLG rez

I don't think we should jump to "get this thing out" until we know why it's there. If it's to observe traffic, that is awesome. If it's to pick off criminals caught in the act, that would be not awesome.

bedforder

Please clarify why it is not awesome to "pick off criminals caught in the act".

PLG rez

"Pick off" usually means shooting people - I would consider than a poor law enforcement strategy. You're welcome to disagree! Figuratively, it might not be such a bad thing.

Dan

From my perspective it comes down to whether or not residents want what amounts to a big honking ugly NYPD guard tower with spy cams hovering above the middle of our neighborhood. It might cause some dealers to change corners, but at what cost?

PeaceLoveNap

Seeing that tower is simply scary. It does not belong in a residential area. Period. It evokes thoughts of prisons, police states and George Orwell's 1984.

I may be wrong, but I don't recall any community outreach to say "we're going to be putting us this scary monster in your backyard. What do you think?"

On the flip side, the 71st precinct seems to suck in my opinion and it seems that during the night people can pretty much spray graffiti or fire a gun at will in this neighborhood.

So maybe we need the tower, but I don't know why we just can't get more foot patrols and more community policing.

mapler

The Klieg lights arrive tonight. Ready for you close-up?

LincolnRdResident

The tower is perfectly placed to watch traffic coming down Flatbush Avenue.

noq

It seemed to me after reading the article in the Times that these units are intended to be mobile surveillance, not a permanent fixture. If that's the case, maybe it will only be here for a short while?

Dan

I just got a report that as of a short time ago the floating booth portion had returned to earth, and that the whole thing was surrounded by several NYPD cruisers. What this means I cannot say.

Ed

This tower is like a beacon of order and lawfulness touching down in the middle of chaos.

I'm sure it will only be there briefly. They must be doing a sweep to eliminate drug-trafficking in the Lincoln Road/Flatbush Avenue area.

Before everyone gets their panties all twisted, imagine that corner without abysmal drivers, excessive noise, unnecessary loitering and drug transactions. It would be pretty fantastic, wouldn't it?

LincolnRdResident

The product is called The Sky Watch. It is about two stories tall, consists of a booth for a cop that stands atop a tower that collapses when the officer is ready to leave.

The booth, which gives the cop a line of sight from 20 feet up, has four cameras, a high-powered spotlight and various sensors. The digital cameras, which continue recording when the booth is unstaffed, save the video to a hard drive.

The units, which cost from $40,000 to $100,000 apiece, are also being used by the U.S. Border Patrol and cops in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Dallas and Fort Worth.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the department has leased one or two of the devices and hopes to eventually have five.

Since they’re moveable, they’re more flexible than fixed cameras.

This is the website from the manufacturer:
www.icxnewheights.com/products/skywatch/

Dan

Good morning Ed :-).

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